This time we added some much requested sexy sound effects! It's only in 8
scenes for now; Blowjob, Sitting Blowjob, Standing Behind, Candle,
Female masturbation, Backseat, Dildo, and Titfuck. It should not take as
long to do the rest, now that we have figured it out.
We also added 2 new outfits for males, and 2 sexy swimsuits for the ladies.
Cool. This is a step in the right direction.
ReplyDeleteI Still would like creampie finishes for the other sex animations that don't have a finish.
I noticed your update frequency has gone down over the last few months. Hang in there and keep making good stuff! We believe in you.
Awesome work! You guys are doing very well!
ReplyDeleteif you're still open to any suggestions, how about condoms? The Slums seem like a filthy place, and you don't want to risk your strumpets getting sick (condoms can also break varying on how cheap you buy them)
Minor thing: For some reason it won't take me to the actual game when I press Latest Version?
ReplyDeleteI'm still having issues finding the latest version? Every time I click on the Latest Version all it does is show the same screen "Do you wish to proceed" instead of taking me to the game.
ReplyDeleteCan someone please copy-paste the newest link?
it´s still the 2.73 version not the 2.75 :s?
ReplyDeleteClicking on the latest version just brings me to version 2.73. Can someone please help me out.
ReplyDeleteCan you separate more cloth pieces, put more socks and stockings, more accessories with more colors, please?
ReplyDeleteIt won't bring me to the current version.
ReplyDeleteCan someone please share the link to version 2.75?
ReplyDeleteAdd some more futa on female scenes, something like prone bone and doggy
ReplyDeleteyou should add a sandbox mode you get all upgrades are free, inf. lust ( once the week is over this inf. Lust will be turned in & turn into inf. gold, Plus you will start on day 90 when you go into sandbox mode. ) &
ReplyDeleteIn sandbox mode you the lust demon that turns in your lust for you will say " its been great working with you (your name) but my mistress wants me to return to her, this is the last week with you enjoy it, ill miss you...... this is the last week i will turn in your lust after this week. Your free to do anything you been doing for my mistress freely NOW... good luck (your name). i wish you luck on your endless quest......."
"Required:
this is only when you pass day 50 (without "USING CHEATS" ) you will unlocked the sandbox mode you MUST LEARN IT".
The last day (on day 99) she will say something like this " Its was good working with you (your name) hope we cross paths again one day, i leave you with a gift for you ( if you a male { you get a BJ or cowgirl (pick one, Not both) from her, then a kiss from her right before she leaves back where she came; with chance of stocked your dick as a tease for a final parting gift } if you a female { you get to do 69 with her, then the same thing a kiss,etc ; chance of she putting a magic dildo in you, while you wasn't looking as a final gift... } if you a Futa { you get to do 1 of 2 things ( pick one ) a footjob then a quick BJ or a BJ & a Quick fuck, then same thing a kiss,etc; a chance of her give a kiss to your Dick also a quick finger in & out your pussy too as a final gift...}) Good luck (your name here )......... Bye! *SHE WINKEDS*...... *proof*... she's gone.
this is my idea a "little award for playing the game normally" ;)
msg me @ theknights750 on Gmail... :)
If you'd LIKE MINE IDEA!
T hx you for YOUR TIME...
Matt.
Old bugs still confirmed
ReplyDelete- Magic Shop and Weapon Shop are not labelled on the tutorial overlay and actually appear over the top of the tutorial, turning "Black Market" into "D*ck Market". Is that where the slave market gets the orc dicks to strap onto half the catgirls?
- Sugu's spiel about catgirls wraps onto four lines and cuts off at "never had this conversation. Are you" and overlaps the smaller text for "Yes" on the left.
- Most weapons turn into sticks when dropped to the ground to masturbate.
- The "You Win!" splash after combat is not clickable but covers most of the button you need to click to continue. If it does show up on a Dominate victory, the label text is missing from both of the red buttons, so you just have to remember that the lower, unobstructed one is the "Dominate" button.
- "The job was great!." has too much punctuation.
- Enemies can use skills and special attacks without spending mana or waiting for a cooldown.
- The Infirmary heal option says you can pay a cleric for healing, so what does the Nurse actually do? Just get the girls lined up and determine how much to pay the cleric? Administer pregnancy tests and magic abortion pills and distribute free condoms? Maybe the nurse's skill should lower the amount of damage taken by applying immediate first aid, so there's less to pay the cleric for. Or is "cleric" a typo, and that button just buys medical supplies (since healing potions are in limited supply on the black market) for the /nurse/ to instantly heal anyone?
- Selecting a strumpet with the mouse sets a yellow highlight, but selecting with the keys doesn't move that highlight. The keys just rehighlight the last one you clicked or the main character if you haven't clicked yet.
- Anilla's introduction cuts off at "but you will call me". There's a down-pointing triangle there, but clicking it doesn't continue the text.
- Nioka's request for 5000 gold to obtain catgirls similarly overlaps the "Yes" option, but fits in four lines, so the question doesn't cut off.
- Bodyguards often have the wrong name and special ability, especially if you have more than one of them.
- Volume settings are not saved.
- Contraceptives checkbox is not saved between sessions.
Old bugs cont'd
ReplyDelete- The kitchen defaults back to gruel when loading a game. The "every day" meal is not restored.
- Anilla introduces herself the first time you use the brothel in each play session - her introduction is not saved.
- Your last Street isn't saved either. It defaults to Slums on reload.
- Keet's quest text "Apparently there are some bandits in the area" partially overlaps the accept line "I could arrange an escort for him, if you want?"
- Bodyguards take damage last - that's the opposite of their job.
- After serving a client in the brothel, in only automatically progresses to the next client the first time.
- Anyone who comes to the brothel for cock gives a feminine name, just like anyone who asks for pussy has a masculine name. Lesbian and futanari scenes always had that problem, with the client having a masculine or neutral name, but now that there are gay scenes too, it stands out more. There are fewer "neutral" names for gay clients. Not that anyone really cares about the john's name.
- In Upgrades, the Brothel never shows as "Purchased" until you scroll away from it and come back.
- The "It was a Trap!" street encounter text includes the typo "payed". That should be "paid".
- When the cops show up on the street and you find yourself screwing someone in a police hat, and choose to fight, the clothed cop you fight probably looks nothing like person you were just naked with. The fight, flight, or fuck decision should come before the sex scene, or the cop should be in the background, catching you in action, not getting naked and throwing their hat on you so their partner can chase you down to arrest you. I mean, how do you get that job? Fucking whores for free and just putting your hat on them to signal someone else to arrest them? And if the guy you were fucking wasn't a cop, where'd the hat come from? Do these cops sneak up in the middle of a job and throw their hat on you and call it a "rest" that you're under?
- "Days until set free" in the prison still says "Unde" at first, if you have one strumpet locked up, until you move left or right, which refreshes the same one strumpet with the correct number of days shown.
- The active character will pop right back up to dominate the subdued attacker even if that was the only one on your side knocked out.
- If the last selected strumpet is the same sex as your bartender, they show up behind the bar instead of the bartender. Sometimes it's only /mostly/ the last selected, with some of the proper bartender's attributes, like breast size, a tattoo, a tail, etc.
Old bugs cont'd
ReplyDelete- When selecting a strumpet in the brothel, it correctly shows their stamina (unless it's 6) but after servicing the client or training, it shows something else, apparently unrelated, but the same value for everyone. The stamina in the strumpet list is shown correctly, but if you have more than four, you have to scroll down every time, since that reverts to the top of the list after every action instead of following who's selected.
- If catgirls are enabled, it seems like that should be a significant factor in a john's preferences, but it doesn't seem to matter whether a girl is furry or not as long as she doesn't have a cock.
- Catgirls can still have a penis in the market, even though they have the Venus symbols for their sex. Now when this happens, it's a green penis. It still disappears when they leave the market.
- Pink catgirls have black and white fur on their portrait in the vertical list.
- In the strumpet selection list, catgirl portraits blink. Not any of the others, just the catgirls.
- Strumpets still do their non-sexual Jobs while in Jail or on Missions. Bodyguards escape the jail to beat up cops and keep their friends out of jail, then go back.
- Even strumpets who are in jail benefit from kitchen bonuses. Awfully nice of this jail to let you bring your girls home cooked meals every night. Maybe like bodyguards, they just escape for dinner and voluntarily go back.
- When you're defeated by a cop, you don't go to jail? Then what was the fight for?
- Night events can include a girl who's in jail getting angry and beating up one who isn't. Isn't preventing that a primary purpose of jails?
- When scrolling through strumpet's jobs, the sex icon sometimes shows the next strumpet's sex, or shows the same icon for everyone.
- Random variation in starting stats so vastly outweighs the effects of traits that any correlation between stats and traits vanishes.
- Elf, Demon, and Orc are traits, but Catgirl isn't. That seems inconsistent.
- Stockings have a gap at the ankles, particularly noticable on the left ankle of the garter stockings.
- Sometimes thieves break in and steal gold, and then the security staff chase people away. If we have security, but it's not enough, the notice should say how to _improve_ our security, not just the same suggestion to hire some as if we didn't already.
- Initial strength does not correlate with body type.
- Strumpets revert to neutral pose after serving a client, then resume their usual pose the next time they're selected.
Old bugs cont'd
ReplyDelete- If you quit and reload on a day Bea has collected lust for The Mistress, she scolds you for not having enough lust essence (it's 0 because she already collected before saving) and warns you about having enough next time, and then if you ask how much you need to collect, she tells you the previous week's amount. If you reload again during that week, the amount is back to normal and she goes on like that whole warning glitch didn't happen.
- When you purchase a meal in the kitchen, the "Purchased" stamp is applied, but then if you navigate left and right to other meals, the stamp stays there over them all. Shouldn't that indicate /which one/ you've purchased? And navigating left or right, even without Buying, unchecks the Every Day option on the one you've already bought.
- "Zap" sounds like something fast, but the buildup takes so long the enemy could get in another whole round of attacks while you're "charging your laser". It's just a zap, not a kamehameha wave.
- Remove All clothes in the dorm also removes ears, and turning off clothes in the Magic Shop hides ears, even Elf ears for actual Elves with the Elf trait, and Orc ears and Demon horns. Hiding clothes in the Market leaves the ears temporarily visible on the current selection, but browsing left or right hides them.
- The brothel client selector picks up at the number it left off the previous day (this session only - not saved) rather than starting at client 1 on the fresh list.
- Super-pale doesn't count as "Pale Skin" for brothel preferences.
- Returning from servicing a brothel client doesn't mark that client "Done" until you navigate left or right to another client and back.
- Hair color preferences in the brothel are unclear where catgirls are concerned, but the clearly don't mismatch. Pink catgirls with bright green hair on their heads don't satisfy the "green hair" preference. That counts as red or brown instead. Brown catgirls with yellow hair on their heads satisfy the "purple hair" preference, not blonde or brown.
- Good night's sleep or Peppy + Fancy meal = 6 stamina, which lights up 0 dots, then using one up lights up 5.
- Demonic catgirls look pretty silly with horns inside their ears.
- Catgirls do not qualify for "Female Prostitute" missions because their sex doesn't match the female requirement, even though their sex is female.
- Catgirls with the "Elf" trait have elf ears right below their cat ears. We should get bonus points for putting her in a bunny suit with the bunny ear hat, making her a Bartender, and naming her "All Ears". Or maybe cat ears are already pointy enough that the extra ears are superfluous?
Old bugs cont'd
ReplyDelete- Trainer/Librarian stats don't seem to affect the teaching and strength training results at all. It's not clear whether the Matron's Skill should affect sex training, but nothing seems to.
- "Do a sexy move and damage an opponent's lust" is an odd description for lust moves. It's not /damaging/ their lust, it's /harnessing/ their lust until it overcomes their willpower. A better way to say it without adding more words would be "damaging an opponent's calm." #BringBackFirefly
- Starting airship missions and then reloading leaves your strumpets available but you collect the rewards three completed days later anyway. Each strumpet (except main character) can do several missions at once this way without ever being unavaialable.
- When you use Stamina in the Library or Gym, the dots in the strumpet list don't update until you exit and go back in.
- The Strippers button in the brothel obscures the bottom two icons for filtering.
- The Clothes button in the dorm obscures the bottom two icons for filtering.
- Catgirls are never filtered out of left-right browsing by sex filters, even if you uncheck all three. They are removed from the vertical list, but still show up if you navigate left and right.
- "A crazy man wandered into the brothel and started jerking off all over the" is missing the end of the sentence. Place? Girls? Couch? Bar? Security guards' shoes? (Yes, this still happens with security.) Kitchen? Windows? Lampshades? Matchbooks? How crazy is he? Maybe roll one at random, to keep it interesting?
- Catgirls in spoon or piledriver or footjob or standing carry or blowjob position have miscolored human or orc lips. Human girls in piledriver have something less obvious wrong with their smiles.
- Girls training with catgirls appears to be messed up.
-- I had my main character (female) train with a catgirl, but instead of the selected double dildo, it was some random guy doing the catgirl "backseat" style.
-- Then another of my girls tried to train with a catgirl, using a dildo from behind, and the scene was the catgirl riding some random guy cowgirl style.
-- Selecting oral showed the catgirl on her knees, sucking off a random futa, but the catgirl had the green lips of the orcgirl I was training.
-- Having a futanari select "candle" with the catgirl did show the right position, and the right catgirl, but the wrong futa.
-- Catgirl x catgirl says "not implemented" for all three positions.
-- I had a catgirl train with my female main character, dildo from behind, and the scene was my main with the catgirl's tail riding some random guy.
-- Selecting "double dildo" showed the same in "backseat" position.
-- Selecting a futa and "candle" shows the candle scene with the selected futa and some other futa.
Old bugs cont'd
ReplyDelete- One of the descriptions for the Live-in Maid mission is "Need an attractive female to clean my house" but the requirement is just cooking skill, not beauty or sex. I would expect that mission to pay more for attractive females, but that's hard to check.
- Strength missions, under "Possible Rewards", say "stength up".
- The Total Cost in the Magic Shop or Clothing Shop has a base of 0, 500, or 1000 for various characters, before they even select anything, and after making a purchase, it returns to that base.
- When you press the space bar or Pay button on the infirmary screen with a healthy strumpet and a cost of 0, it plays the payment sound anyway.
- Bea's quest text overlaps the "Yes" answer.
- After rescuing Harry, one strumpet gets poisoned scissors that appear equipped in the weapon shop and in combat, but are not shown in "My Weapons" so they cannot be traded to a different strumpet or even kept if the wielder is released. And I didn't even get to choose who got them in the first place.
- "My Weapons" starts with a hoe, a kitchen knife, and a walking stick, all marked with an "E", even though nobody has equipped them. Equipping them and then unequipping them removes the "E" and changes their descriptive text to "-1".
- When I equipped the walking stick to my smartest strumpet, the description text shown changed to "6" and when I gave the kitchen knives to B.Ch, the text changed to "4". These are their positions in my staff list.
- After the bartender services a client in the brothel, they reappear both behind the counter and up front.
- Randomly assigning clients sad faces and not even making them look happier as they finish what they paid for makes it look like all our strumpets are pretty bad at their job.
- bras, even nipple tape or pasties, should show while wearing a cupless black leather and mesh bustier
- Shouldn't the default for a boob job be to take your bra off? And shoes off for a foot job, for those outfits with shoes?
- When I send all my strumpets out on missions, some come back the next day, and more come back the second day, but there's no announcement of their success or rewards until everyone is back on the third day.
- When you have two bartenders, and you select the one behind the bar to work in the brothel, instead of the other taking over, the bar is left empty while the active bartender is up front. Is there even any advantage to two bartenders? Should multiple bartenders be allowed if it doesn't do anything?
- Trainer sweatpants and nurse panties are left on while riding reverse-cowgirl. Is the nurse costume a bodysuit under that skirt and blouse? Does it pull aside or unsnap or something?
Old bugs cont'd
ReplyDelete- Nurse and chef underwear are left on for speedbump position... but I think the chef's shorts are crotchless? Fork-shaped cutout? How would that even work?
- Prostitution Missions that give less gold than one random fuck on the street and just as much Skill as one Stamina worth of training are not worth taking three days off. Same for Mining missions, Masseuse missions, Maid missions, etc.. Gold is so easy to come by that the only missions worth doing are Skill XP missions when the Black Market hasn't any Combat or Foraging books and Bea's mission, which is why you even need the books. If you're giving up 9-15 Stamina to do a mission, the reward should be way more than you can get for just 1 Stamina, preferably something else you can't even get otherwise.
- B.CH doesn't automatically take any of her uniform off to ride reverse-cowgirl or give boob jobs or spoon. Maybe outfits need pulled-down and pulled-aside states?
- The panties of the new Halloween outfit also stay on in speedbump and reverse-cowgirl positions.
- The stripper view in the brothel conflicts with the strumpet selection and talk functions - shouldn't the selection left and right buttons in stripper view select the different strippers? There's no button to go back to the default brothel view without exiting and going back in.
- It's a little strange to see women paying as much to give men footjobs, boobjobs, and blowjobs as they would pay to get eaten out or properly fucked.
- Bald still matches on hair color. I guess pubes count? But what if they're shaved too? Everyone has black eyebrows and that's all that's left.
New bugs
ReplyDelete- Sex sounds play after you've moved on from the sex scene.
- Candy corn reappears in a reloaded game even if the Halloween outfit is already unlocked.
- Some of my strumpets had moods way off the sad end of the scale, like half way to the dorm window. Maybe because my current maid is whoever randomly volunteered and has no skill? Do skills actually have an effect now? Exactly what skill should maids have?
- After another week with a more skilled(?) maid, everyone's at least /on/ the happiness scale except for one of my two Orc girls, who's already halfway through the window and just keeps getting sadder even though her job is set to "None". "Orc" is her only trait.
- When exiting from the Jobs mode, the count under the Strumpet's name shows 1/x instead of their proper number until you change the selection to someone else.
- Futanari are removed from the vertical list if you filter out females, but they still come up with left and right navigation.
- Catgirls have green Orcish hands when holding a stick.
- Assigning Nurse and Chef jobs from the dorms doesn't grant the free outfit that assigning them from the infirmary or kitchen does.
- There are no pages to the "My Weapons" inventory, so if you hire 20 people who bring a stick with them, buy a couple books and swords, and randomly acquire a hoe and a knife and a walking stick, the icons overflow into the text area.
- Exiting from the Clothes menu in the Dorms exits the Dorms.
- Orc girls' arms turn pink while they're using the Strip skill. Similarly, B.Ch's sleeves disappear while raising her arms, then reappear when her top's off.
- When I select a catgirl and reverse cowgirl training, it shows backseat instead.
- Vag-Eata doesn't take anything off in reverse-cowgirl position. In fact, if you click the clothes button, his pants even stay on.
- catgirls in combat have a green right hand
feature requests / queries
ReplyDelete- It would be nice to be able to sort/filter the brothel clients once there are many more than you can serve. For example, 75% want women, your females are already tired, and you have to click through hundreds you can't satisfy, repeatedly, to get to the few your males can serve. Or maybe you can send away the ones you can't serve. Or if you have way more clients than staff, maybe your could reduce that by not even letting in the poorest and dirtiest ones.
- What are the Secretary and Matron jobs supposed to do? Annila comes with the brothel... but do we hire her or own her? With Annila and Bea as NPCs, what is there for a strumpet Matron and Secretary to do? Or are those Jobs meant to have the strumpet of your choice take over those positions, with Annila and Bea serving as defaults until you assign someone else? Is Annila going to have a quest at some point to join your team, unlocking the ability to take over as Matron yourself and put Annila to work actually making money?
- It would save on the tedium of scrolling through strumpets to match up requests if the customers would just point out who they want most and who they'd settle for. It would also give some feedback on whether other factors, like beauty and confidence, are doing anything. Perhaps a toggle in the brothel to sort the strumpets by either their default order or the order of desirability to the current customer? Maybe a third setting to sort the clients by suitability to the strumpet. Or maybe that's what a skilled Matron does? She automatically picks the available strumpet who best suits the client's request?
- What if experienced strumpets started getting regular customers requesting them by name and willing to pay extra for them, maybe even bring them presents?
- Intelligence and Strength are the easiest stats to raise, but also the easiest to start over 300. Why are superhuman strength and intelligence more common among sex slaves than extreme obedience, skill, or beauty? Perhaps the common, trainable, effective, and possible ranges should be normalized and training should reach a point of diminishing returns, especially when the student has already surpassed the teacher?
- Bribing police is progressively more tedious and annoying as you advance. Couldn't we bribe a politician, weekly, or even daily, with a single large sum and/or a couple girls, to make the cops ignore us? Perhaps they would still have to arrest particularly stupid and/or loud strumpets who just can't get the hang of discretion. And then later in the game, after bribing a whole bunch of politicans, and throwing them an orgy, we get the laws changed so cops protect the strumpets from getting beat up instead of arresting them. Stupidity and indiscretion might still warrant getting thrown out of classier places, maybe with a fine and wasted stamina.
feature requests cont'd
ReplyDelete- Of course, we don't really need to work the streets after the first month or so and we have ten times as many brothel clients as strumpets and more stripper income than we can even spend, but the streets match up strumpets with clients automatically. So it becomes a choice between the annoying complication of dealing with police or the annoying complication of cycling through both clients and strumpets to make matches.
- After the first week or two, there's so much money pouring in, and so little to spend it on, it would make sense if some of the more optional facilities had an upkeep cost, like new books and teaching supplies in the library and buying and maintaining equipment for the gym. It would be nicer to have more expensive upgrades to the office and the brothel, which might also require upkeep. Once there's over a million gold squirreled away in our little two story house, we really ought to be moving into a mansion, and shopping for our own little floating island tropical paradise to expand to next. Maybe we have to clear monsters and sky pirates and weeds and haunted ruins from it first.
- And speaking of spending money, while it's entirely reasonable to cook for two at the same cost as one, cooking for 20 really ought to scale up a bit.
- Is the healing a spell, or a potion, or a spell that summons a potion? The animation is a potion, but it costs mana, or whatever that star is, and the effectiveness has nothing to do with intelligence. Maybe there should be three healing options, one to consume a potion from your item stock (fixed effect, no cost) and one to cast a healing spell on yourself or one ally (Int and Nursing effect, low mana cost) and one for all of your allies (Int and Nursing effect, high mana cost). Maybe even a fourth, to use Nursing skill and a little Int to apply a bandage.
- Strumpet selection is now in a vertical list, but the hotkeys to scroll through it are still A and D. Strumpet selection should be W and S for up and down, leaving A and D to scroll left and right through other options, like available jobs or clients or missions.
- Maybe the police should show up dressed first, and the police sex scene should only play /after/ you select "Fuck"? And then show the sex scene with the combat stats and choose positions to use your skill and beauty and confidence to beat their obedience, confidence and intelligence (willpower). And maybe not all cops are pansexual, so you'd have zero success chance if they're not interested in you or your bodyguards? "Flee" could play a short running scene instead, one that shows how you use your highest applicable stat to try to get away and whether or not it succeeds.
- And how about a Handyman job, with just a toolbelt for a uniform, tasked with keeping up the condition of the brothel, office, and dorm, with good repair improving mood like cleanliness does, and poor condition lowering reputation and increasing the likelihood of someone getting accidentally hurt?
feature requests cont'd
ReplyDelete- How about some lust "weapons", like feather fans, feather dusters, leather whips, vibrators, dildos, etc? Increase Flirt damage, but lower Attack damage. +10 both magic and flirt damage for Magic Wands.
- Reducing an enemy to kneeling in front of you, furiously masturbating, would give new meaning to the "Finish Him!" directive. Maybe we should get a bonus for getting them off after they submit, like robbing the random assailants or capturing them, possibly selling them. Maybe capturing thugs and turning them in to the cops /lowers/ Police Attention. Maybe making the cop service you and then getting them off means no increase in Police Attention for that action because they don't report being fucked into submission by someone they tried to arrest.
- There don't seem to be any negative repercussions to losing fights either, like being robbed when you're randomly accosted, losing health points from combat damage, etc. I assume you just haven't got to that yet.
- Elvish, Orcish, and Demonic names would be a nice little detail
- The correlation between skin color requests and catgirl fur colors is weird. Maybe if they're /requesting/ a catgirl, that preference could change to fur color and if they're not, skin color won't be a match.
- It would be nice to see a strumpet's stats when buying them weapons, to choose the one they can use best without going back to the dorm to check.
- The way buying weapons is separated from equipping weapons doesn't show how many of a certain weapon you already have on the interface to buy another. It would be nice to see how many of that you already own and how many of them are equipped.
- Assuming there will be some relation between skills and jobs at some point, skills should be displayed while assigning jobs.
- Clients need clothes. It seems odd that they always strip themselves naked immediately, but don't strip the strumpet unless you click. Leaving a hat or shirt on, or socks maybe. Or just unzipping, especially for a blowjob.
- It would be nice if the daily notices could be reviewed after being closed, in case you're clicking too fast and didn't notice there was still a right arrow after dinner until you'd just clicked "Ok".